i am surprised when i visit a forum in talkgold.com today there are some comments about borneo-online forum one forumer quoted a part of the posting here, and paste it into the forum and than ask anybody who can traslate it
one ask about the name of borneo-online moderator and the others say that the name only as a nick-name a forumer say that michael mansfield speak in Melayu Language, and forget his english root
i want to say, that is true that michael mansfield, a moderator of this forum, is just a nick-name. why i choose the mansfield's foto as my avatar, just because i love swisscash verry much
so, this is to inform you, especially the visitors and the members of this forum who don't speak indonesian, please post your comment or any new progress of SC here. this forum is belongs to Kalimantan Barat investor, NOT malaysian investor as ever said by a forumer in talkgold.com.
just share just beliave keep contact SC will back...
salam penuh pengharapan fully hopeness greetings
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Swiss Cash has emerged on a new site on the internet, ahead of the September 15 date that chief financial officer Michael Mansfield had given to investors.
Meanwhile, the operators of the high-yielding investment scheme seem to have as many defenders as critics, as indicated in a flood of emails and calls following the Financial Gleaners story last Friday saying the website had disappeared.
Message alert
On the new site accessed by Wednesday Business - www.swisscashguide.com - Mansfield in a seven-point alert to clients said the original website was locked down in August by the international police, Interpol, but that the company was working with a new but unnamed partner to get back online by September 15.
A section of the message reads: In 18 Aug., 2007, the Mareva department of Interpol has blocked our servers and websites and locked them all and also all our mirror websites and brought our case to an international court without any document against us. Just as we were the best HY (high yielding) paying on Internet. While we have over 580,000 investors worldwide in 200 countries.
At least two persons said via email they were told the site had been locked down because it had been taken over by hackers. A check on the Interpol website turned up no reference to Swiss Cash., and, up to press time, Interpol had not responded to a request for comment verifying Mansfields claim.
But the Malaysian authorities have acquired a worldwide injunction against the company and its associates, blocking disposal of Swiss Cash assets.
Second warning
On Sunday, the Financial Services Commission in Jamaica published a second warning notice about Swiss Cash, in a reminder that the investment scheme was not licensed to do business in Jamaica.
The FSC has been receiving calls from the public requesting assistance in gaining access to Swiss Cash, the regulatory agency said. Callers report that they are unable to gain access to the entitys website to check on their investment.
But the FSC also advised that it was unable to assist persons who knowingly invest in entities that are not licensed or registered in Jamaica.
One of the emails to The Gleaner, however, said the investor had received his 25 per cent payout for last month, and suggested that the FSC was being alarmist.
Mansfields alert also claims that in the past 28 months, there has been no interruptions in the payment of returns, hence there have been no complaints from clients.
But they have blocked access to our websites. So, most of our investors would imagine that we are scammers and disappeared from web and got all their money with us, said point number two on the alert.
Swiss Cash advertises itself as a mutual fund company operating since 1948 and claims its funds under management will reach US$1 billion this year.
source: www.swisscash.xxx.xx
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SWISSCASHGUIDE.COM and COMING COURT CASE ON THE 24TH SEPT 2007 (MONDAY)
Pertaining to the swisscashguide.com "whois" by Joseph Varentoze, my gut feeling is that it is a guide or gateway to disseminate information to us. In MY, this website is only accessible now via the proxy connection. Just for our knowledge, by nature of the name Joseph Varentoze, it is of Spanish or Italian lineage.
I read somewhere that this man is a direct downline of our Asia Technical Director. If this being the case, he might had gathered information to disseminate to us. It seems that the information given us at the swisscashguide.com was written with some details and also warned us of a list of fake websites. It also clearly mentioned to us to wait for the new website url which would be sent to main financial consultants in every region. In other words, the swisscashguide.com is only temporary and NOT intended for login transactions. If this being the case, why Joseph Varentoze took the trouble to provide us the info which to a certain extent is quite elaborate. First I don't see the information in the website is scamful even though the English is not perfect. It also can carry weight that the information was written on behalf of Michael Mansfield. If Joseph Varentoze did it just for the sake of doing it, what does he gain from it?
In addition, we do not know to what extent has the world-wide Mareva injunction has upon SMF by the interpol. Even if you check at the interpol.com for information, it may not be listed there for security reason. Not all information can be obtained at interpol.com for public knowledge as some are kept for private investigation.
The coming court case on 24th Sept 2007 is at the commercial court, Jalan Duta, Kuala Lumpur. The public can come there to hear it. If interested, be there with proper clothing and shoe by 8.30 am to avoid jam. Strictly, by 9.00 am sharp, the door to the court room will be closed. Meanwhile, please avoid making any sensitive comments on the case pending outcome.
source: malay forum
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Swisscash Plans merger with diffrent Investment Firm
Info From Top Sources Swisscash can be possibly merged with A leading Investment Firm, which is now offering a fluctuating rate of 8 - 30 Precent per month. * Name Of the company Not Yet Disclosed By Autority There was A rumor that the Merger is with pioneerprofund. This is Not the Final Information. Keep Visiting www.blogger1.info for latest info
-- Edited by Michael Mansfield at 13:36, 2007-09-20
To All PPF Members, The Pioneer Profund Financial is not merged, unrelated and not associated with the Swisscash program (SCAM) and any investment in online. And Pioneer Profund Financial is not in charge of handling SwissCash Investors' funds. Please do not respond to any questionable about that rumors. Thank you, Ashrif Ahmed Abdellah (Director Team Leader). Caution! (Please do not advertise Pioneer Profund Financial information to public by Internet and/or personal Web Blog. We can do it.If we get traced, your account will be terminated without notice). (Update:19 September,2007)
Hi guys, its been a long time since i post in this forum. We should thanks to the forum admin to bring this up for us all, Swisscash Family.
>> Swisscashguide.com : FAKE SITE
First and foremost, let me tell you guys that www.swisscashguide.com is a total bulls**t! You asking where do i know this? You see, at the earlier post when they told about us the interpol, it really shows the site is a fake! As when you check in the interpol website, there is zero reference about swisscash.
Furthermore, if you really know swisscash before, there is no error in the loading of the upper logo.
1st error: "gateway tofinancialfreedom" (real error spelling.see for urself) 2nd error: the word "gateway tofinancialfreedom" flyby from the left whereas the real swisscash loads together with the swisscash logo 3rd error : when you hover your mouse to the upper links there will be frames showing up - poor site programming. (if you use internet explorer) 4th error : Very poor use of English. From bad to worse. Certainly not Michael Mansfield own words.
* Malaysia users, please use Freegate 6.33 to access swisscashguide.com Go to downloads.com to get the software.
>> The unofficial facts: what do we think about swisscash
Now, you see they, swisscasguide.com told us that the website will open on the 15th September but until this moment still no login access for investors. And yet, they told us wait for more time, Sept - Okt (when is the actual date now? it could be 1st , could be 30th Okt!)
what i can tell you...this is not swisscash style at all. Swisscash always deliver their promise on time when they said it. like the upgrades of mobile facility, it took them 7 days to complete the upgrade. the conversion of acf and sip25, it took them about 8 days to complete the new facility. when they say the date of the upgrade completed, they really come up to it. no a more boring report of stupid lame excuses!
To cut it short, so what is happening to the real swisscash?
Ok. I dont want to play a guessing game here, lets we evaluate it in a more real n logical way. Look at this Malaysia local news, the BERNAMA. you can view it here.
"GO HERE >> http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan1lb2.jpg" You want to know the real story? Read the newspaper cutting above.
>> 1st unofficial fact: In that cutting, it said that Amir Hassan case related to swisscash will be heard on this 24th september 2007. Where on earth is the international courts as told in swisscashguide.com? Guys, its actually held in Malaysia. While waiting for 1st Okt, we can wait for this case date to know the real truth about swisscash.
>> 2nd unofficial fact: We know Amir Hassan & Albert Lee. Who are they? Amir Hassan is the super affiliate ever in Swisscash, he have a network of swisscash investors in almost 40 countries, his last known income was USD1 million per month from swisscash SAP, SRP, SFP commissions. Albert Lee? He is the Swisscash Technical Director of Asia. That tell us all of it. So these two guys know a lot about the insider story of Swisscash. And from this guys we will know the real truth on this 24th. Hope the Malaysian court don't delay the hearing of the case.
>> 3rd unofficial fact: Where is Swisscash now? We dont know where are they HQed now, as in the Commonwealth of Dominica said they have no more doing business there since December 13. Some of you who wants to know more you can call them, dont email them they will give you the same answer as in the link below. If you call them, ask them their current registration status, or if they have re assign a new IBC. Post in the Swisscash Yahoo Forum for your outcome. http://www.stockhouse.com/mediascan/news.asp?newsid=9116655
>> 4th unofficial fact : Why Swisscash dont pay us now? Do you know Mareva? They are like a group of police who have the rights to freeze anyone money value account worldwide, no matter who you are even if you are a government organization. See for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mareva_injunction
If we think it according to the real facts in the news, our best guess here is Swisscash asset is frozen by this Mareva for further investigation. How can they pay us if Mareva hold their account. Like i told earlier, we will know the real news this 24th.
>> Buttomline is:
1) Swisscashguide.com is FAKE. DONT BELIEVE IT. They just want to fool us around and make fun of us all, its really obvious. Throw that website it to Pluto!
2) There is no good indicator of real swisscash but we can wait for 1st okt. our last hope date.
3) the whole truth, that everyone on this world want to know will be heard this 24th September in Malaysia court, no international court ya. Those guys that we discussed earlier are the real hard core of swisscash, they must know everything about it. dont u think so? what we hope now is that the court dont delay the hearing of the case.
3) Swisscash never EVER fail to pay their investors on time, the real time reporting system is crazy mind blogging! (just lately since malaysia's securities commission block their website and was reported to Mareva on July, now the case is in action) . Swisscash use even better system than my local banks n online banks. The whole system cost millions of USD to build! How can they scam us all you think? If they really are, they will become the biggest internet scam history ever.
4) Let say if Swisscash case is true and they will be release from the Mareva, we will be the happiest guy in this planet! Tip: Just Wait For the Latest News About Swisscash in Malaysia!
I hope that you guys like this article and hope it can give us the clear view of what is really happening. I dont like the new website, and i dont like it to fool us all. let we think it in a right way. Thanks for this publication release and hope Allah bless us all! Insyaalaah!
Pioneer Profund Financial From: adminppf@pioneerprofund.com Add contact Add contact Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:22:21 AM To: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
Dear sir,
Pioneer Profund Financial is not associated with the Swisscash or any investment in online.
Pioneer Profund Financial is a leading investment in online. Your deposit protected by Takafol Bahamas and your particular under our security. After mature, your deposit not returned back.And you advised for top-up/re-investing again in a same ID.
Pioneer Profund Financial not related with another investment programs, re-brand; and this company are very stabilize and good policy. At the same time, we never invest in any illegal markets. Please follow the PPF website.
Please invest/active before 14 days after your sign up and do not open more than one ID. One ID you can investing in two plans at the same time.
For get more detail or e-units, please contact our representative of PPF team leader in your country or nearest your country or region.
Mr. Prakoso Soelarno (Indonesia/Papua New Guinea) email : prakoso_soelarno@yahoo.com mobile : +62-818-90-0870
Mr. Adzrey Ariffin (Malaysia) email : pioneerprofund@gmail.com mobile : +60-19-3456519
Mr. Hj Abd Hafeiz Nuh (Brunei) email: hafeiz_nuh68@yahoo.com mobile: +6738780339
Mr. Daniel Owus Gyimah (Africa Region) email: danielonlinebusiness@yahoo.com mobile: +233242580456
Mr. Sahal Ashari (Singapore) email: N/A mobile: +6598540020
Mr. Sten Moldt (Denmark) email: notamsten@msn.com mobile: +004540325345
Thank you.
Best regards, Admin PPF
www.pioneerprofund.com
Caution! (Please do not advertise Pioneer Profund Financial information to public by Internet and/or personal Web Blog. We can do it.If we get traced, your account will be terminated without notice)
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To All PPF Members, The Pioneer Profund Financial is not merged, unrelated and not associated with the Swisscash program (SCAM) and any investment in online. And Pioneer Profund Financial is not in charge of handling SwissCash Investors' funds. Please do not respond to any questionable about that rumors. Thank you, Ashrif Ahmed Abdellah (Director Team Leader). Caution! (Please do not advertise Pioneer Profund Financial information to public by Internet and/or personal Web Blog. We can do it.If we get traced, your account will be terminated without notice). (Update:19 September,2007)
As we are all aware we have been away from our beloved Swisscash sites for 40 days, since August 18, 2007, and we all miss them deeply.
As a founder and manager of this forum: www.memberswisscash.com , I am sure that we all notice that so many people using our chatting facility, our former investors in Swisscash, have become frustrated with the absence of credible news that we can count on. We have been searching for news, but none of the sources can be verified for its originality or truth. Frankly, some of us are slowly losing our hope on the recovery of the Swisscash sites with the passing days.
Therefore, after 40 days of being in the dark, we think that it is time that an authorized person from the Administration or the Board of Directors of Swisscash of SMF speak up to all of us, either through this web site, or another medium, such as our personal Short Message Service on our cellular phones, or to our personal e-mail addresses. We are in dire need for such official explanation, information, and confirmation on when exactly the sites of Swisscash will be back on. If the company has been merged with another partner, it is also necessary to show us some type of preview of a website that we will start using within a specific time frame in the future.
We hope this open letter will make way for an easier communication between Swisscash, SMF (or the new partner) with the loyal investors of Swisscash.
Thank you for your kind attention. Sincerely yours, Valentino
Referrer Trading ID : idval7087801 Founder and Manager of www.memberswisscash.com Email : memberswisscash@yahoo.com
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Swisscash Latest Update We got Some News on the return of Swisscash . We are waiting for More Information and We will post it in this website before 2nd October. We are trying to validating the news Source.
Keep visiting Us for More Information . www.blogger1.info
SC/SMF 1948 will be back online on 31 October 2007 regardless of the outcome of the Malaysian Court Case. The reason for the delayed return of the website are nothing but "TECHNICAL" after the return. SC/SMF 1948 will hold a conferences on it.
We really appreciate your patience till now. As we have promised before, we made all our efforts to save your investments over the market. Due to many unexpected problems in a short period of time for SC (Mareva Injunction, Malaysian Court Problems and Database corruption) We need your help and cooperation.
Here is our technical team message:
"Hello everyone, we have some quick updates to all our members. As it is now, the site is unavailable as we are moving on to a new website with an entire different script. We just received confirmation that the new website will be ready within the next 5 days (15th October) but we are still trying to meet that timeframe. As a result of the possible delay, we will embark on a compensation scheme later in the day. More details will be released later as we have to sort out some details first. Please help to spread the word about this latest update as we couldn't get hold of all members. It was a mistake on our part over the database corruption due to some legal forces and we will answer to it and not run away."
As stated in our last message we would be back in 9 phases. At this time our great partners who are planning everything now (Asia Pacific Capital investment Ltd. & SUN Financial Systems ) are in the beginning of PHASE one.
PHASE 1: Collecting Historical Data & Initializing Websites- USA Residents 15th October - Asia*, Middle East, Africa 31th October - Europe, Australia 15th November
*Asia excluding Malaysia
We remind you that we will be back by this Timetable. We have heard recently that some Leaders and Investors from Malaysia and Middle East have started legal actions and complaints on International Courts against us, We strongly recommend all investors not to participate in their claims against SC or it's partners.
Ex-SC CFO Group Partnership Representative
Michael Mansfield Hector W.Sidberg
13-October-2007
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